Saturday, 15 February 2014

Quickboats on the move again!

James from Quickboats
Quickboats are travelling across Australia and Europe in a series of "Demo Days".
In Australia they will be visiting :
  • Western Australia
  • Queensland
  • Victoria
  • South Australia
  • New South Wales.
You can also see the Quickboat at the South Australia Caravan and Camping show next week on the "Go Camping Australia" stand (Site S33)
You can book a demo or find out when the tour will be visiting your area in Australia or Europe by emailing info@quickboats.com.

Saturday, 25 January 2014

Quickboats Beach Lift Kit about to Hit.

Quickboats have developed a Beach Lift Kit which enables the Quickboat to be more easily transported down to the water edge.
Here is a preview of what's to come.
This preview is being demonstrated by Wibo the European Agent for Quickboats.
I like the way that you are able to transport everything at the same time. Plus the wider tyres should make it easier to move in the sand.
This is just an example at this stage but the final product will have a few more smarts.
I can't wait to see it. 
 

Saturday, 18 January 2014

Porta Bote - Liquid Sealant.

There have been a few comments of late on the Porta Bote forum in regards to leaking seams and one guy came up with a suggestion for fixing seam leaks in the Porta Bote.
His suggestion is as follows :  "Has anyone tried filling the center seam tube with a pourable sealant? this seems like this would be a permanent leak fix for a dryer bote. What do you think?".
The link to the post can be found HERE.

I thought that this idea had possibilities and responded with an additional thought.

If the tubes were filled with a sealant, then perhaps this would add a bit more stability to the Porta Bote as it does become "Squirrely" after about 24kph (15mph).

Someone else suggested that the manufacturer may be able to shed some light as to whether this would work but as yet, the only comment has been:

"Hi,
A number off years ago we increased the thickness if the tubing a certain amount. This did not reduce the important side flexation.The "Flexihull" is one of the reasons (plus the wide beam) that, as you know, helps give your Porta-Bote its stability in rough water. If you reduce the flexibility too much there could be unexpected results.

If you like the way your boat handles now, enjoy.

Fair Winds,

Portatech"

While this reply is interesting, it does not really answer the question directly.
The tubing was thickened to overcome some of the instability in the earlier Porta Botes and as Sandy noted, this did not interfere with the flexibility of the hull.

"Unexpected results" to me suggests that this  idea has not been tested by Porta Bote and "Unexpected results" does not necessarily have to be a negative thing. They could be positive results but until it is tested, we won't know.

I find it interesting too that Sandy's comment in regard to maintaining that flexible hull to keep its stability in rough water would suggest that even with the new Alpha series, the Porta Bote would have a built in limitation as to maximum speed. The "Squirelly" action above 24kph would probably still be there.
There have been no test results offered by Porta Bote in this regard other than statements as to the Alpha series being very fast and that the transom does not flex.
As is the norm with Porta Bote, test results and maximum speed, etc are a guarded secret which I find strange as one would think that they would be proud of any improvements and shout it from the tallest mountain.

Quick Boats, on the other hand have no problem with releasing their test results which I think are quite impressive.

I still wonder about the infamous flexing transom as the only reports that I have seen so far indicate that the transom still flexes.
As to it being "very fast", no speed test results have been issued by Porta Bote and if what Sandy says is correct, the hull cannot be stiffened sufficiently to overcome the "Squirrely" action of the Porta Bote at speed without affecting its stability in rough water.

I am not suggesting that you don't buy a Porta bote as it does have some positive aspects to it.
The hull is very strong and not prone to damage.
It is light and portable.
It can be launched from just about anywhere.
It is very stable in choppy water.

The Quick Boat also has some positive aspects.
It does not flex as much as the Porta Bote.
It has a very rigid transom.
It handles more like a normal boat.
Test results are available
The bladder is more readily repaired
It is fast.

It really boils down to personal preference.
It's a matter of "Horses for courses"

So as Sandy says: "If you like the way your boat handles now, enjoy."

Just my thoughts.
What do you think?

UPDATE

Another reader suggested caution when filling the tubes with liquid sealant as it would depend on how clean the surfaces were inside the tubing as to whether or not the sealant would work.

Just food for thought.

Sandy's recommendation for fixing a leak:

First make sure that the the rubber washer seal on the lower bolt is touching the side of the hull. If there is a stainless steel washer in front of it or the seal is dried out, that will cause a leak.

1- How To Test: With boat opened and bow raised on a rock or table, rear seat plus transom inserted. Wait for water to run out the bottom tubes if recently used in the water. After water stops coming out of the tubes, pour a gallon of water into rear of boat and tip the rear of hull downward again so water is exposed to the rear seams.

Watch to see if water comes out. If it really does leak, it will be the
end of the center (keel) or side seams at the bottom of the boat (tubing).

2- How To Fix:

Use a large screw driver to pry away about 5 inches of the tube. This exposes the stainless steel staples. Use a vise grip to clench each staple tight. Then, pour water into the rear of the boat again. If no water comes out, you have fixed the problem.
You can always contact me direct by using my personal email address:

sk@portabote.com





Sunday, 15 December 2013

Another outing in the Quickboat.

Yesterday I caught up with James from Quickboats again and we tried a little fishing at Deepwater Bend in Brisbane.
This time James started out in Hobart and traveled up the East Coast to Brisbane, demonstrating this  innovative folding boat along the way.
You can book a "Test drive" on their website. Check out this link to see if one is available in your area.
Interest in the Quickboat is increasing rapidly with a number of Porta-Bote owners also checking it out.
They too have expressed similar concerns in regards to the Porta-Bote and the infamous flexing transom which creates problems with the outboard hitting the back of the bote.
The trim of the outboard has to be adjusted out so that the outboard does not hit the back of the bote and this decreases the efficiency that the outboard can operate at from my experience.
When on my own, the tilt has to be set to the fourth hole for maximum speed which creates cavitation problems intermittently.
With two of us in the bote the best position seems to be in the third hole on my bote or the boat loses speed.
If they fixed the transom in my opinion, the Porta-Bote would perform a lot better with the exception of the patented "flexihull" which loses stability after about 15mph (24kph or 13 knots) according to Sandy Kaye of Porta-Bote.

Back to the Quickboat. (Sounds like something from an old Batman movie)
The fishing was quiet. Nothing that I can report there but the boating was excellent.
Conditions were a little choppier than the last time James took me out on the Quickboat which gave me the opportunity to see how the Quickboat performed in these conditions.
I noticed a little flex around the hinges in the Quickboat but nothing like the flex in my Porta-Bote.
As a result the ride possibly wasn't as smooth as it is in my Porta bote although I haven't been able to reach the speeds that we did in the Quickboat so that may not be a fair comparison.
I would describe the Quickboat as somewhere in between a Porta-Bote and tinny (aluminium boat).
Had I been in my Porta-Bote the ride may have been smoother but my knees would have been pumping up and down like pistons due to the flex in the hull.
There are positives and negatives with both the Porta-Bote and the Quickboat.
The "Flexihull", while losing stability with speed is very tough and difficult to damage on the Porta-Bote.
The transom does let it down in my opinion. Even with the new folding transom there appears to be flexing.
The bladder on the Porta-bote is also difficult to repair due to the type of material it is made from.

The hull of the Quickboat is made of fibreglass encasing two layers of single cell foam. This is not as tough as the Porta-bote hull but is easy to repair and because of the design of the fibreglass hull, it will not fill up with water as is typical with a normal fibreglass boat.
Should the bladder become damaged, it is very easy to repair on a Quickboat.
The transom of the Quickboat is definitely rock solid with no flex noticeable.

I'm still impressed with the performance of the Quickboat and if you are looking for the convenience of a folding boat, I would certainly recommend that you have a look at one of these for yourself.

Cheers,
Matt

Tuesday, 5 November 2013

Parsun outboard on Porta Bote trial.

Saturday 2nd of November.

On Saturday I took my 10' Gen IV Porta Bote out on North Pine river with my son in law Lee.
I had the 5.8 hp Parsun outboard set to the third hole and it performed quite well.
We were able to attain a speed of 16 kph  (10 mph, 8.6 knots)  with the two of us on board according to my GPS.
We tried the fourth hole on the motor but we were unable to go above 12 kph.
The second hole allowed the outboard to hit the back of the bote and therefore was not an option.
This is different to when I was by myself.
When I was by myself, the bote performed better with the outboard set to the 4th hole however I experienced cavitation when the bote was lightly loaded.. In the third hole, I couldn't get as much speed out of it.
So it appears that conditions dictate the best trim for the motor.
Parsun is a Chinese motor but I am very impressed by it.
It is 95% compatible with the Mercury/Tohatsu outboards.
Has anyone else had experience with the Parsun outboard?
Click on the comments button below to leave a comment.


Tuesday, 29 October 2013

Alpha Series continued.....

Well, it's been 5 days since my last post regarding the 10' 2004 Gen IV picture.
Out of that post came some good results.

  1. Some good discussion in the Porta Bote forum as a result of my blog. 
  2. Sandy confirmed that there will be more "improvements" to the new Alpha series over the coming months.
  3. People buying the new Alpha Series Bote today are aware that they will not be buying the best that will be available.
  4. Sandy assured present buyers that the new improvements can be retrofitted to existing Alpha Series Porta-Botes - I am hoping that the new upgrade will be a new improved transom, which has been an issue for me from the beginning. This "upgrade" will be available in 3 to 4 months.(Sandy says it is held on by 8 bolts. He also says that many of upgrades are not that obvious so I don't no how these can be retrofitted.)
  5. One lucky prospective customer was told by Sandy that he will receive the new upgrade free of charge should he choose to buy the new Alpha Series on Friday. There was no talk in regards to the 1800+ people that Sandy says have bought the new Alpha Series receiving the same offer.
  6. Sandy has offered to produce a "Real" picture of the Alpha Series Bote. (Not really a big deal but man that 10' bote could move!). 
  7. Along with the improvements to the Alpha Series Botes will come a 5% increase in cost.(This is not so good either, but at least we know about it in advance.)
  8. Positive feedback from the Porta Bote forum on my blog. There was one negative comment, but you get that.
  9. A really good response from one Ozzie that opted to buy a second hand Porta Bote over either the new Alpha series or the Quickboat. His story and the reasons for his choice make excellent reading. Very practical. (I am hoping that he will paste a copy of that story in the comments section of this post). 
If you have chosen a Porta Bote or a Quickboat, feel free to leave comments as to the thinking behind your decision.  Click on the comment button below

Tuesday, 22 October 2013

Parsun on my Gen IV.

Last weekend I went out again for a run with the 10' Gen IV Porta-Bote and the Parsun 5.8hp 2 stroke.

Again I was impressed with the difference the 5.8 hp made over the 4 hp mariner.
However I am beginning to see a new issue.
I believe it is to do with cavitation and next weekend I hope to do some more tests to see if I can overcome the problem.

The best performance I was able to obtain was by having the outboard set in the 4th hole on the motor.
When I tried it in the third hole, my bote didn't seem to go as well.
I still think it's an issue with the flexing transom on my Porta Bote.

What is happening is every now and then, the motor would rev high and the bote would slow down.
I believe that this is due to the propeller hitting an air pocket cause by cavitation when travelling against  a strong current..
Once the bote slowed, it would grab water and push me forward again.
Next weekend, I want to try different settings to see if I can overcome the problem.
I'll keep you posted.

Has anyone else experience this phenomenon with their boat?

I'd like to add that the issues I am facing is not the fault of the Parsun outboard but rather the flexibility of the Portabote.

I am very impressed with my Parsun Outboard.

I'd love to hear of your experiences